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    Liner size matters:

    Here is where I will let users discuss just how important it is to get JUST the right size of liner material.


    Robert here! I wanted to share my experience regarding different liner sizes as a semi new owner of this marvelous toy!
    I received; based on my size a 2.38 liner with my Venus. On my first try I almost came in a minute like a teenager but shut it off in time to catch my breath and ponder this unbelievable experience. I was trained well in 21 yrs of marriage to pace myself and last as long as necessary and being divorced I used a popular sleeve product and it was fun but hours of that gave me joint issues and I found Venus!
    It wasn’t long using the Venus that I discovered how to play with the settings and now the liner! I tried the Twist reccomendation but that wasn’t a natural feeling to get a firmer stroke and sqeeze! I went to a 2.0 liner thinking a snug fit would be fun. Wrong! I couldn’t get into it even with lube. I like a firm and tight and very wet wrap on my cock but not a death grip! I spoke with Karen at ABCO and she suggested I try a 2.12 and a 2.25 liner and compare. So she sent the liner material to me and I rebuilt 2 receivers and marked the 2.12 on one. We are all different in every way so this is just my version. You may have better or worse results doing what I did! I had not played in 3 days. I put on some good POV Porn and tried out the narrower liner first. I set the stroke at it’s farthest length at 60 strokes per minute; nice and slow to start and of course used enough ABCO supplied lube on my cock and in the liner. I’m sorry if this is long but I’m trying to be thorough in describing my experience knowing full well most of you will be different but hopefully take away something positive from my post. Onward. The 2.12 was tight on my 6.25 girth but not unfriendly! Once underway and very wet I could feel the precum flowing at about 5 minutes in. I then increased the stroke to 72 per minute, using the digital timer on my cell phone. I was in Buzz cock Heaven now! Just orgasm after orgasm, in 5 minutes!! Not to be confused with ejaculation! At 10 minutes I pulled out to get a breather and my cock was just oozing precum! The heat of friction just made it shiny and purple with clear fluid coming out. OK, I applied more lube to my cock and went back in and decreased the stroke down to 60 again thinking it’s a safe level but after two or three minutes I was ready to cum and stopped. I had to be ready for the next receiver and didn’t want to finish. I know, I was in an altered state and very tingly and wet but I took a 10 min. water and face wash break and returned. So as far as the 2.12 liner goes; it appears for now at least, long strokes at 50-60 SPM and I could probably go 1/2 an hour, maybe, until a relube and speed up. Short fast and slow strokes testing is for another time. This is all just basic and same parameters! The 2nd liner as I said is 2.25, not much difference to the eye but there is a difference! As before, I lubed up my cock and the new liner and watching a similar POV movie, I set the stroke at 60 Strokes per minute with the long stroke setting on the Venus! I must add here, the Venus as most of you must surely know is a wonderful and very satisfying device. I am so happy I purchased it! As I started the Venus the slightly larger size was immediately different in that it was still tighter than my original 2.38, it was very firm and comfortable for the full length of my cock! It glided to it’s end in the receiver very smoothly and a bit more quickly. This made me think I’m going to cum soon but I hadn’t got the familiar waves and throbbing as I enjoy so much; but instead of the tight wet thrusting and sucking pressure the 2.12 gave, it was more like a semi firm wet grip gliding over my shaft like a tight silk scarf and reminding me of a nice warm and silky hand job with an occasional suck on the upstroke that tingled and squeezed my head. I was at 10 minutes now at 60 SPM and increased it to 90 SPM and there it is! That feeling of precum just starting to come out and reduce the friction and begin the tingling and throbbing but not close to cumming at all. Flexing my Kegals and pinching my nipples made me appreciate the full effect of the Venus because so many things can come to the party if you try and make it last awhile. I love the edging and the Venus makes it possible for me to discover more things about it and me every time I use it! I stayed at 90 for about 15 minutes and the last 5 minutes were just dripping orgasms. Again I pulled outrest a minute and see the precum because until the Venus, I never noticed very much precum at all. Now it’s the precursor to ‘good things are cumming’! I digress. I catch my breath and have some more water, (keep plenty of fresh water nearby), I notice I get a little dehydrated using the Venus! I return and insert after lubing my cock again with plenty of lube now because I think I may cum if there’s too much friction as I’m feeling really sensitive and orgasmic now. For the sake of the test, I’m just going to go the distance and see what my stamina is with this new liner. My balls are pretty swollen now! I’m in and I do reduce the stroke to just the first 2-3 inches of my cock at 60 SPM! The strokes are shorter, faster and it feels a tad tighter and very wet and sloppy with the extra lube like a good blowjob. I’m really liking the tenderness of my tingling Frenulum getting rubbed by the liner like there was a nub on it. Just amazing and giving me more wavy orgasms! I keep this up, looking at my clock for about 5 minutes and double the short strokes to 120 SPM! This is my goal speed but I won’t last long going this quick because the rhythm is so sexy and massage like that I can’t stand it for long and I was right. at roughly 4 minutes at 120 my knees were getting weak as I was standing next to my bed(always a good idea to plan your fall if you have one)and I could feel the slow vibrating build up to release and just having my dick in the receiver on a pillow on the bed and hands free, it stroked away until I fell forward on my face and came and came until I had nothing left, and turned my lovely Venus off and just rested, breathing hard and spent. I believe I will continue to have both sizes from now on. They both have their attributes! The 2.38 just wasn’t right for me and that’s why I experiment and fine tune stuff! The 2.12 is superb for quick sessions or training sessions, which I think I need and the 2.25 is good for a little more lengthy session with some adjustable wild edging capability! Thank you for reading this and I wish you all many exciting discoveries and experiences with your Venus




    I have a 2.5″ receiver tube that came with 2.25 liner. I have since increased the liner to 2.38″ and now 2.50″ with the girth at base and glans increasing dramatically with much more pronounced corpus spongiosum and veins. Its a real rush watching it swell like this.

    Roger Springer

    great report; yes personal size and proper fitting with the sleeve and tubing is very important to achieve maximum sensation. My problem is with the dual valve end caps. The valves are located in the end of the cap and when seminal fluids flow the caps can’t discharge liquid and still provide proper air control thus forcing the sleeve off the penis.
    does anyone have a fix for this problem????????? I have sent comments to ABCO requesting end cap design changes; installing the air valves on the side of the cap and include a small flapper type valve in the center of the cap for liquid drainage.
    hey guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ABCO needs our design suggestion. Can you help??


    Regarding your end cap valves clogging, you didn’t say HOW OFTEN this happens. My ‘fix’ for this problem is to run hot water thru the valve after each use, dunk the cap in a small dish of isopropyl alcohol, then set the cap under an electric light to dry the alcohol. I also shake the cap to assure myself I can hear the valve is free and clicking.
    However, perhaps my sessions are not as lengthy as yours or involve as much lubricant and/or semen.
    I also have a good selection of receivers to choose from should one misbehave.
    I recently went down a liner size with good results. Thanks to the originator of this thread for writing about it.


    Regarding plugged end caps: seems to be the Achilles heel of this system because I experience it only occasionally now. It’s been said before but bears repeating, a drop or two of 3 in 1 oil or gun oil after you’ve cleaned and dried it will help a lot! I should ask you guys about this; often when I stop, I may change to another cylinder with a different feel and notice a lot of what I think is Precum in the last used end cap and some lube too I’m sure and all the pleasure waves this produces are making this Precum occur, especially when I get close so many times and stop to rest a moment. It’s exciting! Does anyone else experience this?


    Hello, The cap venting can be a challenge! I’m still a beginner, just a few months and always trying to see how this could be better and I found what works for me is to try everything; adjustments, liner widths, speed and stroke combinations but do it slowly in small increments. You have the time! Today I edged for 4 hours using a new technique that kept the cap on at almost all speeds and lengths by changing the stroke by way of sucking very hard on the air box hose w/o the air box for a longer stroke and locking it where it feels right for 1 minute or 20, always changing the squeeze pressure and stroke by using a plastic hose clamp like an enema hose and the speed. Endless combinations. Do you want a shorter stroke; just loosen the clamp a click or two, a little more and I’m getting the best head suck job around. I have fun with it! I made a camera video today of it stroking attached to my desk with a brass cup hook screw and a small zip tie and rubber band. It stroked great for as long as I wanted but I don’t know how to post a video here. I’ll figure how if anybody wants to see it.


    Someone in the Group on Yahoo made a device attached to the cap with another hose to a twist top reservoir, all being pumped out of the cylinder by another small suction device. I may try that! More suction with lots of wetness and long slow strokes and no plugging up, I use gun oil on the vent! MM MM MM!

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